Smorkian; FOR GODS SAKE!!! Burakimin, come on man. While it is a sad event, the method in which she did was selfish to say the least. As for the deceased person, as we do not know anything about her, it is a little early to judge her motives. No. More like a temporary solution to a permanent problem steve@CPFC - "Compassion is free" and wasted on the feeble minded. Seems like a lot of people still need to learn about mental illness. I agree with Papigiulio there must be more gentle ways to do this. 25/10/2022. There is a good deal of toing and froing.. Wow! The ability to comment on our stories is a privilege, not a right, however, and that privilege may be withdrawn if it is abused or misused. No - she simply didn't think of the effect her action would have on others. Rangers trade Kravtsov, waive Leschyshyn, Giants, Jets fans among most passionate in NFL: report, PIX11 talks with Adam Korsak ahead of NFL Combine, Moose on the Loose: New York basketball is fun again. It would be great if everyone in the world was apart of a single global consciousness. She had to have felt some pain there. We should never condemn the mentally ill this way because it causes trouble to passengers etc. It's quite possible there were no witnesses as this is a looong platform (it's my home station) and probably there weren't so many people waiting on it at 10am. Zara's husband announces a two-month tour with his rugby podcast 'We met a Princess'! It is mental illness, do you lot get it "illness". Bihar News: - . That's what this woman did, she took her personal problem and ruined a whole bunch of strangers' lives with them. I doubt she was thinking along those lines though. Cleo - would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? Put up the fences and legalize suicide so people will go for a needle rather than a train. He has left 2 lovely little girls who will grow up not even remembering their Father. Of course people who witness this are traumatised and i don't think anyone would deny this. Japan has a major cultural flaw. - Just nuts man!!! If it happened to your loved one would you like them to be called "selfish" and other nasty words? At 3:17 p.m., at the Broadway and West 96th Street subway station, an unidentified woman jumped in front of a southbound 3 train in an apparent suicide, an NYPD spokesperson told WSR. MoriNoHogosha; very brave of you to come here and post how you feel.Suicide is seen by many as a dirty and nasty thing. NOT everything is easy. "It's a shame that because of her actions others were hurt, and with the Japanese being as they are, I doubt as well that others were traumatized by this woman's actions as well.". She ended her own life. If you've been impacted by this story, Samaritans is a confidential emotional support service for anyone in the UK and Ireland. i wish people who post here would Learn MORE about Japan She was caring and a good mother. |. Counseling is almost never heard of and even mentioning that you have a mental sickness is already a death sentence, people will shun you like the Ebola virus. It seems some people don't understand the meaning of the word 'selfish': lacking consideration for others. Life had got too much for her and she did the only thing she could think of to put a stop to it. I also very much doubt that she was in any kind of logical state of mind when she did this. I even came close once, and I probably would not be sitting here typing this if not for intervention. The woman, believed to be in her 20s, was seen lunging into the path of an oncoming No. According to police, the woman, Premalatha of Senthil Nagar in Urapakkam, had quarrelled . With 35.000 suicides per year, it is not the lady who had a problem, but the society which is inducing people to suicide. Police are currently trying to identify the deceased. There are hundreds of ways you can kill yourself without involving the public. Incredibly (or perhaps not so incredibly) another person did the same thing there today. maybe we should look at why it is getting worse and what we can do. I have been late 3 times this month because someone thought to throw themselves in front of a train! Mumbai: Woman commits suicide by jumping in front of a train. She may have lost everything. If you want to feel preachy you can even require psychological counseling but give them some out of the way place to do it. If she'd had someone to listen to her - really listen - this might not have happened. We don't know anything about her life I sort of agree that we don't have to critise herBut this happened to my husband many years ago - the guy standing next to him suddently approached the train as it was about to stop and the train hit him in the head. How on earth her family have to pay ? www.ndtv.com. The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . People who commit suicide are selfish and in this case she even hurt innocent bystanders. The identity of the woman is unknown at this time. Why, no, of course I'm not being sarcastic! That said, to declare that her act was selfless is a little much. It is always good to be prepared for this happening to anyone close to you as this is so hard and frustrating to deal with. The law is illogical and wrong, because it can make you to use "super glue" ,so to speak, to join each family member together 24/7 for just having peace of mind. What a waste! steve: "Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. 3. DS Rees confirmed that such an arrangement had been agreed, before taking the hearing through the hours leading up to Ms Redmond's death. Make it "trendy"??! There are few posters on here who don't say it's a shame she did what she did, and that it's horrible she reached such a point where she felt this was the only option. That's gotta be the first time that's ever happened. Because it's far more likely she ended her life for the simpler reason most people end their life - clinical depression. DS Rees said: 'Leighane Redmond had several debts in several forms. The distressed woman leapt in front of a northbound D train as it entered the station near 86th Street shortly before 9 am, according to authorities. She had jumped in front of the train with her . With a train you just stand on the platform and make that sudden, crucial decision to step or jump forward without anyone having the chance to stop you (unless you WANT to be stopped). Because you have compassion for those who commit suicide doesn't mean you don't also have foranyone who has had to witness and deal with it. 'When she was well, we never had confrontations, the only time we argued was when she didn't want to take her medication. Shortly afterwards, Ms Redmond and Melsadie were seen to enter Taplow stationand the pair remained at the station for around 20 minutes. Compassion is free. 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Regardless of her true mental state prior to jumping, I place blame for neither the damages nor the resulting trauma on that woman. Stevea great comment from you that doesn't go on to blame her parents and childhood! Somehow she wasn't up to speed, couldn't get with the program. Another deluded individual. In the incident caught on CCTV, a policeman jumps after the woman to rescue her. When the person awakes and lives witha feeling of nothingness and utter despair do you think they can have consideration for otehrs even you with your busy schedule. why? At this low point rational thinking is almost gone, the main thing is to end the life. However, it doesn't excuse what I feel is an overwhelming atmosphere herein - that people are criticizing that woman for not thinking about the aftermath of her suicide. At 6.30am, at which time Melsadie was with her father Leroy Parris, Ms Redmond had checked her bank balance at a garage. She was seen wrapped in a poncho walking hand-in-hand with daughter Melsadie, who was wearing alittle furry parker jacket with a winter hat and gloves, at the station one hour and 12 minutes before their deaths. This happens everyday, another happy day in Japan. Cleo-summed it up best. Woman killed by oncoming train in Bensonhurst: NYPD. It is true that mental illness is still taboo in Japan and that is a lot of the problem. Surely "taking it out" on someone implies intent Smorkian? British Summer Time begins in March but do you wind your watch forward Britain braces for brutal -9C Arctic snap: Met Office warns more snow and ice could lash the country next Could Northern Ireland become the UK's Silicon Valley? I'm sure they're terribly rattled, though. What if she was from Fukushima or near the area? A six-month-old baby boy died Friday after a woman jumped in front of an oncoming subway train at St. Clair West station. Royal Mail worker Zdenka Yabani spiralled downhill after a scan of her unborn daughter revealed the news that her baby was 'small' and could have a facial abnormality. . It was an awful experience. I find it utterly ridiculous that people call this woman "selfish" based on the fact that she somehow, in her morbidly depressed state of mind Selfish? Northbound 3 trains are running local from Times Square-42nd Street to 96th Street. Northbound 3 trains are running on the 5 line from Nevins Street to 149th Street-Grand Concourse. I am so sorry for this poor soul and the people affected, particularly the poor driver who had to witness this. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? Take the quiz: How well do you know LIV Golf? More people rush to help the duo, and they are eventually pulled onto the platform. This was perhaps because, in the back of my mind, I always knew help and support were available. They charge millions of yen for stoppages, extra work, etc Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. Police say although there were no eyewitnesses to the incident, the events were captured by a station security camera. ultimately used her flying corpse as a projectile with which to smash through a shop door with the sole intention of injuring and traumatizing four people inside the store. tired of the traffic backed up from suicides? The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. the point is that he couldn't sleep for a couple of days and said he couldn't get the sound of the train hitting the guy's head out of his mind..he still sometimes speaks about it. Whatever the reason, it is clearly a very selfish act indeed. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can A mix of what's trending on our other sites, Japan reports 13,950 new coronavirus cases, 1st foreign cruise ship in 3 years arrives in Japan, Japan births hit all-time low in 2022; below 800,000 for 1st time, 'Paper City': The untold story of the firebombing of Tokyo in World War II, Putin orders Ukraine border tightening as drones hit Russia, Japanese Americans who won redress, now fight for Black reparations, Musk accuses media of racism after newspapers drop 'Dilbert' cartoon. 'We were aware that pregnancy was a difficult time for her in terms of her mental health. She was a resident of Paharganj area of Delhi. The act of suicide is not usually selfish becaus ethe victims mindset is beyond that. 'It made me late for work' -type posts - Yes indeed. The much-in-love couple married and moved to Manchester in the UK in July 2005. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Leighane Melsadie Redmond, 27, had been taken to court over unpaid bills before jumping onto the tracks at Taplow station in Buckinghamshire on February 18, 2019. We should sop thinking so much about ourselves, ok we are late for work, but a fellow human has died, their shoudl be pity for the deceased and their family not bitterness and anger.Humanity needs a lot of improvement. I doubt the woman calculated the angle of bounce. Leighane Melsadie Redmond had been taken to court over unpaid bills, the inquest at Beaconsfield Coroners Court heard today (November 15). Was she a member of this community? I read all your posts and I think you all missed something. A smile or even some expressed concern, verbal or not, can go a long ways to helping ease someone's state of mind and break down barriers; at the very least, it will provide a brief reprieve for a troubled soul. Call the Samaritans on 116 123 or email them atjo@samaritans.org. It breaks my heart. British Transport Police had declared the deaths a suspicious incident and an investigation was launched by their Major Crime team. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. bass4funk; terruble, you were late 3 times because someone ended their life. I think there can be no doubt whatsoever that the people hit by this woman's body are suffering trauma. Stressful start to National Offer Day? Several witnesses told police they saw the woman jump from the edge of the platform and get hit by the train around 5:20 p.m., an NYPD spokeswoman said. Suicide is complex, but without a doubt, there needs to be FAR more done here for mental illness. We want our comments to be a lively and valuable part of our community - a place where readers can debate and engage with the most important local issues. A train fatally struck a woman after she jumped onto the tracks at Bay Parkway Station in Bensonhurst on Wednesday morning, police confirmed. would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? Subsequently, a train slows to a halt on the tracks. But she couldn't be part of that society, could she? Many here seem to think that suicide is a matter of choice as is the means to commit the act. The only selfish people are those who criticised this poor woman.Please show her and her family some respect. Why, of course it is! Somehow she didn't fit in to it. She was thinking of herself alone. Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. British Transport Police subsequently declared the deaths a suspicious incident. In . The inquest continues. Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter today, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC told Beaconsfield Coroner's Court: 'Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform down to what is known as the forefoot and is then struck by the train.'. They don't realize how much of a mental block depression puts on a person. We talked to BestReviews nutrition expert, Molly Bremer, about her favorite whole grains and how to use them. She then returned to the non-public access platform at 9.29pm and once again lifted Melsadie over the gate, but this time also climbed over the gate herself. Princess Diana's nieces Lady Eliza and Amelia share 'Appalled and sickened but not surprised at all': Fury of Covid families as WhatsApps 'show Matt Hancock Head over heels for Kate! Just another day in Japan. There are times when the person is such a low point that death seems the only option. . while tragic, her act delayed thousands of people. They do not dwell on the horror and get on with their lives. Please show her and her family some respect. You are quite certain to succeed with something like this. According to investigators, the woman, believed to have been aged in her 40s or 50s, was standing on the third platform at Shin-Koiwa Station at around 10:00 a.m. She then moved to the edge of the platform as the Narita Express airport service approached, on schedule, at 10:04 a.m. and threw herself in front of the train, which was travelling at around 110 kph. Perhaps not by those who say, "well just make it legal". Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. it has NOTHING to do with it. Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. more than 34000 people kill themself in Japan every year, that is horrible! July 13, 2011 05:00 pm JST. Wrong signal. Again, it's sad she did it, but you DO know that when a person kills themselves on the rails the family may have to pay the expenses for clean up and delays, etc., right? Her life ,her decision, her responsibilityshe is (or was) an adult with full responsibility and legal rights for goodness sake! So yes, prevention starts in the early years. In a startling incident at the Dadar station Maharashtra's Mumbai, a woman jumped before a train. Bereaving families are not only stuck with a funeral, but a huge bill for the suicide. So, after that experience I'm not so keen on excusing those people. A mess, yes. So please don't accuse me of not understanding, I understand it all far too well. A man has been charged after he allegedly jumped onto train tracks near one of Sydney's busiest stations, bringing traffic to a standstill and causing chaos for commuters. 40.680481 -73.843731. Steve: you make some excellent points about the ones left behind. Perhaps this is too 'clean' or 'romantic'. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? They were sick. CCTV footage from the location shows a woman jumping in front of a moving train in Ghatkopar station in Mumbai. & yes some people can't help being poor, but Geez being poor is better than being Dead its a NO Brainer. I did not say her actions are good and i do sympathise with others effected by her actions.If anyone critcises are suggest she should have done something else, stop now. This woman has, through her actions, seriously affected many others. All trains should be like Namboku line - no stress there. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. This article tells us where she died but not where she was from. To request removal of your name from an arrest report, submit these required items to arrestreports@patch.com. "I have been late 3 times this month because someone thought to throw themselves in front of a train.". Down right scary !!!!! 'She in fact picks Melsadie up and literally hoists her over that locked gate and places her on the platform. why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? There was no criminality. Have it government regulated? (For more information on this and other neighborhood stories, subscribe to Patch to receive daily newsletters and breaking news alerts.). Morre and more we see a lack of empathy for those who suffer.Modern society? I ahve seen this happen to someone, leading up to their death i got hurt so did many others. At those speeds there's going to be a mess. Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata (sic) on suicide. A suicide note has also been recovered by the police. As Cleo said - a permanent solution to a temporary problem. My friends husband died last year through suicide. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Ms Redmond then brought Melsadie back over the gate to the public area of the platform, before returning up the stairs to the bridge over the platforms. If you have a communicable disease it can't be helped and you need to get treatment, but it doesn't excuse you if you intentionally infect others. , updated 'It was completely out of the blue, it scared me. and even "Didnt he/she love me enough to try and get better/help themselves" can drive people to their own dark place. Remove the stigma and try to help society understand it is the same as any other illness, nothing to be ashamed of. A woman along with her four-year-old daughter allegedly jumped in front of a goods train following a dispute in the family near Meva Nawada railway station of Sahaspur, police said on Saturday. Terrible and selfish. Northbound 1 and 3 trains are bypassing 72nd Street. As a result, you apparently cannot show compassion for this woman and want to judge her by logical measures. Police had few immediate details, but said the person may have jumped in front of the subway. True, suicide is seen as selfish in many parts of the world, but most of those who think this (even myself sometimes) cannot even begin to understand what makes a person contemplate let alone choose such a route. The inquest heard Ms Redmond had a bill to her electricity supplier of 334 outstanding, a bill to her gas supplier of 638 and she was in rent arrears of 1499.37. By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please Most of us are simply turned off or revulsed and have enough problems on our plate everyday without having to come up with extra strength to help others, expecially those with desperately deep needs. I've been close enough to the edge that I remember feeling nothing but fear, just being scared to hell, and debilitating sadness. She later made a number of phone calls, including one to her prospective employer and another fairly lengthy call with her landlord, Hightown Housing Association. They also default on life insurance (which I think goes to the company, but not sure on that one). The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly killing her. Please report any comments that break our rules. I agree with steve@CPFC, there is no point trying to criticize this person. Steve's right! 0 Comment. It's simple ease of access. When do the clocks change in 2023? If people wish to suicide, whatever, just dont take down others with you. Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. I always wonder if train jumpers are so frustrated w/ society, that this is their final, middle-finger salute. 'She had to be admitted to hospital two weeks after we came home,' said the husband. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. "fit into society"?! Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, She jumped onto tracks atTaplow station with daughter on February 18, 2019. The traditional way was to jump off a cliff. We know her well enough to know she ended her life in the most selfish way possible - by traumatizing many people forced to witness her death, not to mention those injured. I am even more glad like i choose to work from home, never socialse anymore and just be with those who matter. If you are screwed up, go into that forest at the foot of Fuji and do us all a favour PS - don't wanna sound callous, she may have been mentally sick, but it's possible this selfish woman has destroyed other people's lives. The service is available 24 hours a day for people who are experiencing feelings of distress or despair, including those which may lead to suicide. Its a mistake. 09:48 GMT 16 Nov 2020. Everyone here is making very very good points - but then everyone here (I am presuming!) I understand it completely. If your going to do it don't risk others. The following service changes were implemented, according to the MTA: If you or somebody you know are having suicidal thoughts call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-TALK (8255) or call 1-888-NYC-WELL (9355) to speak with a counselor. On January 2 2018, the couple went to the Royal Berkshire Hospital for a baby scan where they were told the infant was 'small' and may have a facial deformity. What is wrong wih you people, did you grow up in the 19th century? Another sad and quiet tragedy unfolds. the fact is we have to understand that people who kill themselves are in no state to start considering others, they don't even want to live. And if you want to do something to help someone before they get in this desperate position, a little bit of kindness and understanding really helps. Nevertheless, that doesn't excuse the fact that Japan is in dire need of social support services, anywhere from distress centers for abused women or victims of rape to trauma counselling and psychiatric treatment. It might not get better. 'Usually when she had an episode, the signs were lack of sleep, lack of appetite and being angry but she was normal before and after the incident,' husband Jude said at the inquest into her death on Thursday. contact the editor here. cleo - You're right. Mr Wade asked the officer: 'I think your financial investigator looked at whether she had made a voluntary arrangement in terms of indebtedness through court proceedings. I doubt if she needs any now. While this might sound callous, the Narita Express (airport-bound ones anyway) is the worst train to jump in front of as far as ruining other people's days- I wonder how many people missed their flights because of this? By 6pm, CCTV footage showed that Ms Redmond was with Melsadie and she tried to book an Uber toBeaconsfield and made a call to her mother. Suicides usually choose JR over other lines as 100kph trains thunder through the stations. Based on the collateral damage you think was somehow purposely premeditated? Going to the top of the building could set off certain alarm bells, so to speak, and someone might notify the authorities or someone else and the person might be talked down. I think it is wrong and low class to criticise someone who found that this was the best thing for them. Mother cradled baby daughter and 'carefully jumped' in front of train, inquest hears. Very useful skills indeed! No one as far as I can see is accusing suicides in general or this woman in particular of being malevolent. ( ) A. bad B. badly C. good D . Our DIY expert, Beth Allen, founder of HIP Chicks (Home Improvement Project Chicks), knows which tools you need to take on big projects by yourself. 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