Another example would be the queen: after her suicide cliff attempt, she acted like shed been married to Ha Seon all along instead of Yi Heon. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Please enter your username or email address. I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. Early on there were comments about the disclaimer at the beginning of each episode of TCC. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. The writing, on the other hand, definitely the weakest link. Actually not a copy paste historically accurate like the history channel but more about historically sensitive etc. Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. I loved this drama as you said it wasn't perfect in every way but still it was great in many ways. Oi The ending was really beautiful. I mean, i dropped this show about halfway through so I didn't watch the back half. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. Also the king wasn't allowed to read his own records in case he'd changed it. She cracks it and makes a wish, but when she opens her eyes, shes still alone. Eunuch Jo brings Ha Sun a scroll, and he reads the hanja himself as he announces that for the queen dowagers crimes of harming the queen, ordering Lord Yoos assassination, and leading the rebel forces, she is officially deposed and ordered to drink poison. That's all we need, they said. Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. What happens upon the family's arrival? I dont feel that it did as good of a job as it could have in explaining why Minister Lee killed Prince Yul for Yi Heon, or framing his poisoning of Yi Heon as something he was doing for the country, even though it personally hurt him to do it. 5. cookie : true, // enable cookies to allow the server to access Because they went about writing it completely the wrong way, and the premise was flawed from the very beginning due to how they decided to tell it. Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. But Ha Sun states that he has committed no crimes, because the secret letter was his way of protecting the nation, which is his duty as king. People who watch sageuks want historically acurrate stories, right? That being said I don't believe TCC passes either the probability or possibility test. Grrr. Lord giseong is a prince as i understood. If it was a challenge to my Sageuk Sages @kiara and @pakalanapikake then this sageuk punk is in good company. The way the camera panned out at the end with them walking off into nowhere and how there were no questions asked and she just said that she had seen him in her dreams etc, could mean that it was their souls reuniting and not their physical selves. This went on for 3 or 4 times, the guard took advantage of it and oneday ordered to kill the disrespectful guard who is laughing at him (but actually the real king dressed in guard clothing ). Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? He was always so twitchily suspicious that I can't believe he just stood there as Haksan grabbed a guard's sword and charged at him. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. 2023 TheReviewGeek. Yup, I concur with all your points, @marcusnyc20 bong-soo. A concern for royal doctors. 3. The first scene in this episode sets the tone. But still could not convince other ministers because if they were proved wrong they will loose their necks. Which is why it is still very (in)famous, known as the "MLSHR Phenomenon". The problem is, is that the show did not actually want to tell the story of the King AND the Clown. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. // Load the SDK asynchronously She meets with Minister Shin, upset about how things went this morning, because when Prince Jin-pyung dies his soldiers will be demotivated. Thank you. Did he not know that one was a royal twin (considered bad luck?) ???? Anyway, this was my first sageuk and I'm really glad I watched it. All that means nothing if youre going against the almighty Team Good! Give me a break. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. That scenario would have created a lot of edge, suspense and sadness without killing a character for clout. After wrapping up the loose ends with both Queen Dowager and Sin Chi Soo, we skip forward a year (or so I presume due to the first dialogue exchange). But for the ending, thats a 4/10 for me. P.S. All I ever wanted for Ha Sun and So-woon was for them to live a normal life like normal people, and they got exactly what they deserved each other. Unanswered questions. Jang Gwang. The Crowned Clown gave us characters to hate and root for. And it was filled with MLSHR comments!) Ultimately, the show may have raised interesting questions, intentionally or not, but it gives a simplistic answer that's wholly unsatisfying in this regard. But if its boring, nvm. You're a neophyte. So after the preliminary introductions, they used Yi Heon as a plot device, to get the Clown into the Kings position and then they abandoned the King. And thats really poor writing. I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. A great fit. He had no backstory. Thanks @kiara and @pakalanapikake for all your comments during the run of THE CROWNED CLOWN. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; The queen dowager snarls that he promised to confess, realizing that this is a trap. That was during my first DB live-watch, OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which got into some trippy metaphysics. As an audience, it was too easy to see these things in modern-day context instead of the context of the time period, where often, getting rid of someone, though a heinous choice, was often the only choice to protect the power of the throne (and thus the people). It made me think that the PD doesn't have enough control over one of the most important departments of a Sageuk, which is Wardrobe and aesthetics department. Ha Sun receives a message that the border situation has turned dangerous and Aisin Gurun may attack, since they never received Minister Lees peace letter. To me they always make for a cliched and boring ending. He used to swap cloths with the guard make him sit on the throne and would laugh when ministers and noble men bowed to the guard. Yay for Jung Il-woo and the Good Guys. Woon-shim finally packs up the things that Minister Lee left at the gibang, and she cries for him one last time. (I did watch it, and I was right.). The Crown season 5 ends with Princess Diana preparing to take her sons Prince William and Prince Harry on a holiday to St. Tropez, organized by Al-Fayed. Some peasants could have been shown taking them in. In this video, we give a full ending expla. And even that wouldn't have happened if Lee Jun-ki wasn't leading the drama basically single-handedly! I'm not even thinking that this drama is even close to reality lol. For a moment I thought the red clown was the king and would be the happy ending but was not , It was really good but it wouldve been better it had season it was so much left out . Episode 9, titled Couple 31, follows the consequences of the interview, as Charles and Diana finally give in to divorce. 3.1/4 For his death, Jang's felt like a dream, like some type of awful and heart stopping nightmare. Now we agreed about Lookout too, so that doesnt surprise me. Then the death of Officer Jang and the unnecessary pain the Queen had to go through while grieving for Hasun. The end was quite disapointing, I mean the jump in the future was useless. And . I'm glad the ending was portrayed as such, a little sad for those who would only ever want to find what they dont like instead of balancing it out and pointing out what they might have done well. For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. And with the way Hasun suddenly reappeared and the Queen didn't even ask him where he was, only asked what took him so long?? He manages to touch the pot of water, but he only tips it over as he dies. How could you just walk out unarmed in broad daylight?? Heyena. The drama took some risks like killing off the king halfway, according to the actor who played haksan it was something they had in mind since the beginning. It signalled me that it's highly probable he doesn't have enough control over the other departments either, which are Plot Consistency, Believability and Execution. 7-8 of HAECHI before today, but no such luck. Why did he leave the palace without guards? In re-reading the ep. And if there is a pre-existing King for him to be then who that king IS (or was) is very, very important. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. It made it interesting. Eunuch Jo gives Ha Sun a drawing that he made of him, remembering how Ha Sun once drew him a picture to cheer him up. And it becomes very boring to watch. Thanks so much for the recaps LollyPip! Jung Il-woo is giving a fine performance as Prince Lee Geum. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { In the morning So-woon decides to go for a walk, and as she strolls, she recalls the intimate moments she spent with Ha Sun and the promises he made to always be with her. In fact, I was this close to forgoing this entire essay last night and just shitposting for this recap, like I did for Memories of Alhambra. Honestly, his death was really a nice plot in the story. Yeah, I was all set to accept this final episode as whatever, its over and forget about it. Re: Ha Seon (YJG) in fighting blue. That's how much attention to details that was being paid to the king and his daily routine. Because they do make sense. No man can serve two masters. 1/4 In my view, the story went downhill after Yi Heons death because almost nothing that was set up before then had any serious consequences. I am mad they reduced the King, Yi Heon, to nothing, when he was in my opinion the most interesting, and the most important character. Por que eu achei que todos os inimigos estavam mortos. Thank you, fellow Beanies, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. I also hated that the poor mom who had his son killed by the previous king had no retribution at all. Youre amazing cuz you even got the queen dowager to agree. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. There's no telling how much faulty impressions you'd get if your 1st sageuk was MLSHR or Hwarang or Moon embracing the Sun, because then you'll have it on high pedestal, comparing the other Sageuks to your 1st one for some time for all the wrong reasons. ;-). Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video I enjoyed the it. As soon as its done, a weight seems to lift from his shoulders. We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. Everything was inconsistent. I was still bitter with how they made the Kisaeng wait for Haksan for 20 years then bam Haksan's dead just when she thought she had a happy ending now this :/. KINGDOM, alas, also got short shrift from me because it was too much to juggle with CROWNED CLOWN. There was a king and one of the his guards at the door looked very much like him, an uncanny resemblance. Legacy? Gotta say though, I did enjoy the political aspect of this series even if it was neglected in the last couple of episodes. His death scene was really great. Both Moo-young and Eunuch Jo advise Ha Sun to have him come to the capital to protect him, but Ha Sun says that people will be killed if Aisin Gurun attacks. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. I have a few minutes here and there but this show needs my full attention lol. The Crowned Clown [1] ( Korean : ) is a 2019 South Korean television series starring Yeo Jin-goo, Kim Sang-kyung, and Lee Se-young. I watched the first 15 minutes or so and knew how they would treat the king's character that I couldn't stand to watch anymore. :). She decides to let Ha Sun pay tribute to Minister Lee, so he allows Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung to leave the palace. Your email address will not be published. Yes @kiara. Honestly, its not even the underlying moral issues that are never addressed by this show, although sure they annoy me on a personal level, and I have argued about them till Kingdom come; its that a core ingredient for plot and character was just IGNORED in order for them to try and push the story they wanted to tell. . This is a critique of the show alone. They suggest he bring in a new concubine to give him a son, and even So-woon thinks he should do it. This shows single and greatest flaw, therefore, is ignoring the consequences of the King as a pre-existing character as determined by the premise of the show itself. I'm glad I tuned in. What a lovely ending. Lord Giseong agrees, saying that a kings job is to approve court discussions and take responsibility for the consequences, not wield power as he pleases, and Ha Sun regards him thoughtfully. I seriously think they changed writers in the second half. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. It can be a pretty bad thing. The Crown season 4 ended with Christmas at Balmoral. On the latest episode of the tvN drama "The Crowned Clown", the fight for authority over Joseon continued, but not without a little romance thrown in between the battles.. Ha Seon (Yeo Jin-goo) promised Yoo So-woon (Lee Se-young) forever love asked asked her to see the flowers in spring, the ocean in the summer, and harvest in the fall.Ha Seon explained the meaning of the tree of love and put . And nobody found out the Clown wasnt the King because the King is dead. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. Part of my detachment is also because of what for me were inadequate characterization, and plotting that at times strained my suspension of disbelief. I was not expecting his remaining foes, Daebi and Lord Shin, to lose their mojo or get a group rate on lobotomies. Yep, the mother of the baby that was killed so cruelly agreed to let the honorable Haksan die with utmost integrity. A. Did he wish on one of his hazelnuts?! I am now pushing on with JEONG DO JEON (35 of 50 episodes completed.) I briefly thought the show was trying to say that Cray Cray's Cray was entirely due to the environment he was living in. I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. The story made a lot of promises, and then didnt deliver. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. Connect with Facebook Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. She notes that this is her first time seeing the throne in person, and that Prince Yul is dead, but her blood will soon sit on the throne. Its just as J Star said: Unanswered questions. 4 Jul 2021. Unfortunately, the drama version ending didn't give us much closure and added more questions that needed to be answer. I will remember his Eunuch Jo for a long time. We just want better developed characters with a clearer plot and an ending that is believable. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything Ive loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. Not to mention that Ha Sun The Clown didn't even get to be a clown very much, so where was that characterization? The basis of him getting on the throne was not exactly morally right anyway. Its a matter of preference. What was the point? Monk Jung Saeng agrees that Minister Lee wouldnt want them to die for nothing. The Crowned Clown (2019) - Recommendations - MyDramaList The Crowned Clown (2019) Details Episode Guide Cast & Crew Reviews Recommendations Photos Edit this Page Make a Recommendation 8.8 The Red Sleeve (2021) Lee Se Young is the main Female Lead in both dramas Somewhat similar vibes but are pretty different plot-wise. }; Or change the two years to two weeks. After 15 episodes of drama, tension and romance we finally reach the conclusive chapter to this historical Korean show. In the history of my country we had a doppelganger fake king ruling for 6 years. He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. What right do they have to the throne? Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. Which sounds all well good. Guards run to close the palace gates and protect the queen, but Ha Sun only has eyes for the dying Minister Lee. I think that was an unfortunate oversight. I don't know what came over me that I felt so compelled to embark on JUMONG and KINGDOM OF THE WINDS around the start of the year. I was perfectly okay with the ending. A) Ha Seon gives up the throne. The Clown is King? The king's every move and poop was recorded so it would be very difficult to make a switch but Ha Sun was only subbing for the king for 15 days. I'm totally mystified over how Ha Sun survived two arrows in the back (let alone managed to extract them by himself). And he shouldve been. He didn't even try to run. That is the amount of respect or rather fear a king was able to inflict upon others in those days. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. In comparison, I was passionately and unequivocally committed to REBEL for the entire run of that show. I was happy as a clam that Eunuch Jo and Ho-geol survived the rebellion. all had loyal supporters! His dignified presence was a centering, moderating influence for both monarchs, and elevated every scene in which he appeared. He gave an incredible performance; Royalty? And their casts were first-rate. I expected a pair of little ones running in the yard! Im kind of glad I wasnt in the mood for this one, even for Jin-goo. or I read the rest afterwards but i still have to say the same. The Clown manages to fluke his way out of the accusations (without anyone on his side dying), and then the Villains lead a rebellion that is entirely unsuccessful and was executed without intelligence so that the Good Guys (lol) can win very easily and eliminate all threats, in the space of about 20 minutes, as if the last fifteen episodes of well, drama, mean absolutely nothing. It's also funny how if you have slip up and say it backwards (like I often have), and you happen to say the word as spoonerism ( Clowned Crown) it still manages to highlight some of the show. But I dont know the Clown. I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. Ah.I just can't forget how foolhardy Hasun was to leave without protection when he knew that he had so many people against him. When I was watching HWAJUNG, I had to put it on the back burner a bit more than half-way through, and didn't get back to it for three weeks. Excellent performance by Kim Sang-kyung. Why didnt the Queen let his sister know who she was, Also I was also confused at how Shin got back in the palace back in his uniform for the assembly meeting when he broke out of jail And was sentenced to death, Because I loved the drama so much and was on the edge of my seat I was expecting a Scarlet Heart type ending or Queen for Seven Days even but do t get this one at all but would still give it 9/10. What was the point? if (d.getElementById(id)) return; The queen dowager grows nervous when things are quiet for too long, but then a soldier runs in to tell her excitedly that they stormed the palace and captured the impostor king. Loved the show and all the actors, especially the King, not the ending, but glad I watched it. Even more than the king/clown swap, I loved the smaller stories about Ha Suns relationships, both with his existing family and the new one he cultivated in the palace. So what if youre a prince. Yes me too. All this leads me to wonder now if the ending is much darker than it seems on the surface? When Kab-soo and Dal-rae's clown troupe arrived where Ha Sun had intended to rendezvous with the former Queen, I wondered how the guardian managed to leave his job working for the navy in Ha Sun's hometown. Peace has descended across the land and now the attention turns who the new heir to the throne may well be. At times he made me forget that it was fiction. Dunno but I enjoyed it veeery much. He says that serving Ha Sun has been a once in a lifetime blessing, and they hug, both of them crying. And its not because I didnt get the ending that I wanted that makes me sad. They have to go back and redo it!!! 4. The ending is meh.. No one would let a lowborn guy like him to rule if he was not able to fool everyone to think he is the king. Irrelevant time frame. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); It WAS a good decision for Ha Seon to abdicate. Lucky you, for having a fairly good Sageuk as your 1st one. I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. She asks why hes here and not Minister Shin, and he says that Minister Shin fell in battle, but that theyve got the king locked up. I have seen a lot if historical dramas because i generally like historical/costume dramas and this is certainly a drama that i really enjoyed. And no maid will serve you water if youre not Team Good. Suspension of Disbelief. He never had a chance to be anything other than a plot device that was promptly forgotten. Thats my point. I agree regarding Moo Youngs death. Since NIF is set in fictional ancient China, I think it will be easier to differentiate HAECHI from it than from another sageuk. I can't handle 2 or more at a time and it makes me sad when they compete for the ratings. It has been a pleasure. The upcoming CHRONICLES OF ASDAL, set during Gojoseon days.) Not because i didn't like it but because i thought it would cause to loose some viewers as yi heon really had gained some fans despite being kind of a villan (thanks to jin goos excellent acting on a villainous role. Thus, the story's flow was smooth and it concentrated more on the main story of the clown. ;-). 4/4 Haksan had to die for his sins. Not as many ribbons and bows that way, but also no time skip that leaves more unanswered questions. 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